ICE vs. Hispanics Que es un REform eh?

[MadSpleen85]

This is wide scale, if it could be labeled it would def be similar to hilter and the jewish community.

That is the most ignorant and uneducated statement I have heard in a long time. Comparing the illegal immigrant population in the US, to Hitler and the Holocaust.

That would fit if the US invaded Mexico and then separated the legal residents of Mexico. Last time I checked this is legal Mexican citizens ILLEGALLY coming into the US in HUGE numbers.

I believe that the laws of this country need to be enforced and violators prosecuted. You break the law, you deal with the consequences.

I'm all for opportunity for all people, but there is a legal way to do things.

Yes, this country is made up of immigrants. Immigrants that have followed the process and laws of their new country, ALL OF THEM. Paying taxes and other expenses that legal citizens pay and saying "but they won't get SS benefits when/if they retire" is meaningless to me.

The laws need to be enforced, violators need to be prosecuted, i.e. deported. There is no room in the court system or the jail/prison system for immigrants that are Illegal just being in this country.

[C91BLX7]

That is the most ignorant and uneducated statement I have heard in a long time. Comparing the illegal immigrant population in the US, to Hitler and the Holocaust.

That would fit if the US invaded Mexico and then separated the legal residents of Mexico. Last time I checked this is legal Mexican citizens ILLEGALLY coming into the US in HUGE numbers.

I believe that the laws of this country need to be enforced and violators prosecuted. You break the law, you deal with the consequences.

I'm all for opportunity for all people, but there is a legal way to do things.

Yes, this country is made up of immigrants. Immigrants that have followed the process and laws of their new country, ALL OF THEM. Paying taxes and other expenses that legal citizens pay and saying "but they won't get SS benefits when/if they retire" is meaningless to me.

The laws need to be enforced, violators need to be prosecuted, i.e. deported. There is no room in the court system or the jail/prison system for immigrants that are Illegal just being in this country.

x2 I agree

[owequitit]

don't know where to begin with you guys.
First the Topic was to help people that are indirectly being harrased by one of the government largest entity with alot of authority and power. If you can stay on topic why continue? Then again your pitiful rage got you all wound up and for you to call undeocumented workers wetbacks and other racial slurrs is very offensive, which I think was your intents, and quite simple ignorant.
You have classified illegals as mexicans, mexicans are they only native american ranch that have occupied the southern united states before Texas and California where aquired as government property. There for saying a Mexican = illegals is incorrect. Illegals can be any one you me some one with a gun at school the African dude or Vietnamese guy smoking a cig. But Ill continue.
The vast majority of you feel threatend if you will by immigrants. The same was true durring the poorer immigration which consisted of the EAST europeans. The irish were only frowned upon because of their religion. Immigrants back then moved in, On boats if you could pay a ticket then you could come along some would sneak on too, REAL ILLEGAL right? The problem was that they couldnt speak english and were different and as always americans flet them selves better than others. Communities started to form and others simply moved out. No one was able to say "Hey pack your shit you look funny smell funny cook funny and dont speak English, Go home thats funny". The Idea on how to deport people hadn't been brought up yet other wise Im sure they could have. Thas just some History lessons seeing that America Builds some of the shitties people. Litterally obese diabetic cancerous dumb illiterate people. The majority of people in america can speak english, and even that is a challenge for them. Most cant read past 8th grade levels and yet nt to my suprise can barely scribble on a pad let alone type out a decent paragraph.
Do you really think that some one can come into this country and pretend to be you? Come on man you'd hate that. That is why nazi's hate jewish people. Not because of there skin really or because they celebrate differantly its simply because the aryan nation wants every one to be that some person and if a jewish person can ssimilate them and get away with it its like stabbing them in the back. Some of you understand.
You cant hate some one or feel tension toward some one for being themselves, eating and dressing how they feel. It would take more than 5 years to become natralized and even then would you speak english NO. Youd be in you native country waiting for you papers to come in. SO just because you see some people that are differnt that you dont assume that HEY THEY ARE ILLEGAL!
What do you feel is taken away ? Your jobs? You said it yourselves undocumented workers are not educated enough to be a threat to society. Maybe its the americans that cant write or read there own fucking language that feel threatend but they cant vote they are too fucking stooopid. And about the health care yeah fucking right, how many people go to a hospital and never pay? Alot. Mainly americans. If you found a report Im sure it would say "Illegals make up 90% people whom didnt pay". It would say that people don't pay them because it doens't affect their credit score. And its true. How many latinos are making up the army? This one is for 203 creep. How many ? More than blacks? More than White? More than asians? How many REAL americans inlist into the services? Not alot. Not alot at all. So what is being american? Sitting in you front lawn making racial remarks about jewish people? What is american pretended you are German and that since you are german that ww2 didnt affect you and that you fought in germany against america and that some how you made it to america to establish an inbreeding of german people? How about this is american knowing how to sing the national anthem and flying a fucking flag? No I can see alot of flaws in america. That doesnt mean i want america to fail, I know it will however. So why cant some one that does the same shit as you, work spend cash live and fuck be here. Because hes undocumented, what the difference between undocumented and documented hell be working that same job doing the same things and have to same opportunity as you to bust your ass. Rest assured this nation wide racial profiling will not go unresolved.

This is mildly hillarious honestly. You try to sound big and educated, but not only does your grammar suck, but you are only about 70% coherent.

Your arguement about the "illegals" having rights to the land is 100% invalid. They sold it fair and square, and thus have surrendered all rights to it. It would be no different than if the person you bought your car from came by and started driving it because they had it first. It is a lame ass bullshit excuse and you know it.

Your "people" and the Jews under Hitler aren't even in the same ballpark, so stop trying to pretend they are. Also, get over yourself about the false harassment. Some people are going to be questioned mistakenly. It isn't an abuse of power, it is a simple case of mistaken identity. Of course, if you were the one that was wronged, you would probably have a different take on the matter if they questioned someone who LOOKED like the person that stole your shit, but were wrong. You would be happy that they were doing their job. And don't pretend like you wouldn't because you are lying.

I am not "threatened" by anyone. My problem is people taking services that they should not be entitled to, while I have to foot the bill. And then to top it off, they make a minimal contribution to anything, and expect me to be happy about it. Meanwhile, MY spending power goes down, as does my level of service because we are footing the bill for people that shouldn't even be on the bill.

[LinX]

It seems that being illegal justifies not paying taxes or not filing paperwork, etc... for fear of being deported. What kind of shit is that? Like stated above, you are selfish to think that you can come to this country and basically drain it of its resources without ever giving back to the economy.

No offense to the OP but that holocaust comment was poor in taste and totally out of the realm of this topic.

[10thcb7]

Im sorry I had to make a "real" reply instead of just a 'quick reply'.

Some thing that has been bothering me alot is that fact that there has never been a government report on undocumented people. And I say undocumented because they have no social. But obviously as with anything you can tell when a fraud is made. So if they can estimate the things with variations on them why can they estimate how undocumented workers are affecting the Nation? There has not been one report on how severely that system has been damaged if it has at all been.
True alot of drugs come from Mexico. But really do think that Miami and Jersey get there drugs from Mexico? There are flaws in the system everywhere. California is a problem. How many of those containers do you think comes FULL of HERION? Alot. Asians have say in the drug market as well. I once saw a special report on 5 lbs of non active plutonium being shipped from India to China then to California. I think that is a bigger threat than Immigrant workers. But if its the Drugs that scare you dont worry the Pope and the President have to be getting their Crack Cocaine from somewhere.
So you say well if Immigrants wouldn't be hear we would be deprived of government founded programs and crime rate would go down. This is true... to an extent. Why are shitnutz stupid? They have no education or have been raised illiterate and stubborn. So any person regardless of race or gender is at risk of living on a poverty spot of town. These places normally have higher drug and crime rates with low income families and even lower cost of livings because the government pays. How many blacks have you heard of use different ss#? Or get government funding just "casue". Alot and Im sure even more white americans do as well its just most white americans try to cover for each other. And as far as crimw goes yeah crime is every where more now than ever im seeing more white people wigg out. Especially those at school whom have social dependancies or stigmas on them. If undocument CRIMINALS (not illegals) if CRIMINALS whom are not just for america and cause chaos are caught, why keep them here? Why not send them back to their home land where punishment is severe? Because the government wants to get paid by your tax dollars to contain them. When they could simply cut their losses on the spot with the CRIMINAL.

Dont get me wrong though, UK and America as well as Canada have had success because "THEY ARE WHITE". I would trust any one else in office esp not a black person, AFRICA SUCKS! And Not a Latino either since all those countries are currupt. Asians Run dictator ships and Russian eh I dont fuck with russians.

[MadSpleen85]

I am not "threatened" by anyone. My problem is people taking services that they should not be entitled to, while I have to foot the bill. And then to top it off, they make a minimal contribution to anything, and expect me to be happy about it. Meanwhile, MY spending power goes down, as does my level of service because we are footing the bill for people that shouldn't even be on the bill.

x2.

Hospitals have suffered, and the level of care has suffered. Ask anyone that has been around the field for 5 years or more.

Illegal immigrants do drive, many uninsured. The time that one LEO is tied up writing a citation for an illegal immigrant who is driving illegally, adds to the response time that the law abiding citizens of the jurisdiction have to wait for the Police to respond to whatever their call for service is. Whether it is a harmless poodle running around in the rain or an armed home invasion, that traffic stop is ONE less LEO that can help in the effort.

[10thcb7]

This is mildly hillarious honestly. You try to sound big and educated, but not only does your grammar suck, but you are only about 70% coherent.

Your arguement about the "illegals" having rights to the land is 100% invalid. They sold it fair and square, and thus have surrendered all rights to it. It would be no different than if the person you bought your car from came by and started driving it because they had it first. It is a lame ass bullshit excuse and you know it.

Your "people" and the Jews under Hitler aren't even in the same ballpark, so stop trying to pretend they are. Also, get over yourself about the false harassment. Some people are going to be questioned mistakenly. It isn't an abuse of power, it is a simple case of mistaken identity. Of course, if you were the one that was wronged, you would probably have a different take on the matter if they questioned someone who LOOKED like the person that stole your shit, but were wrong. You would be happy that they were doing their job. And don't pretend like you wouldn't because you are lying.

I am not "threatened" by anyone. My problem is people taking services that they should not be entitled to, while I have to foot the bill. And then to top it off, they make a minimal contribution to anything, and expect me to be happy about it. Meanwhile, MY spending power goes down, as does my level of service because we are footing the bill for people that shouldn't even be on the bill.

Not that your opinion or approval is really needed but and I quote "you are only about 70% coherent." 70% is I need to pass any test unless its a subject that one has never been educated on, then 90% is required. but seeing how stupid most americans are that makes me feel better like warm saki.

Maybe the 30% that you feel as incoherent may have confused you a bit. And I quote "Your arguement about the "illegals" having rights to the land" that is incorrect. Why the Fuck in Bushes name would I "argue" that the land belongs to Mexicans. Simply Mexicans of older generations can be American Citizens since some but not most have alreadly been here before the purchase of Califronia and Texas(both of these purchases extend as far as arkansass and nevada). So it is not an 'excuse'. Hispanics as a whole are not "illegal" any one can be and to claim Mexicans as the sole wave of "illegals" is incoherent.BITCH

Your "people" and the Jews under Hitler aren't even in the same ballpark, so stop trying to pretend they are. Also, get over yourself about the false harassment. Some people are going to be questioned mistakenly. It isn't an abuse of power, it is a simple case of mistaken identity. Of course, if you were the one that was wronged, you would probably have a different take on the matter if they questioned someone who LOOKED like the person that stole your shit, but were wrong. You would be happy that they were doing their job. And don't pretend like you wouldn't because you are lying.

This is wrong on too many levels. Simply Hilter sought after the Jewish"semitc" peoples. The same way America did so to Native Americas and Japanese Immigrans whom never got redemption for. This is not false harassment. This is harassment at its truest form. Hispanics of all sorts both citizens and non citizens being placed under arrest for their skin color. You couldn't change my mind if you paid me money or changed the laws. And undocumented workers are viewed as criminals for, "stealing" as you call it, have involvement in the workforce. Which most people dont understand although they may not have a social they do indeed pay property and federal taxes, which is what most you nut fucks complain about any how.

[MadSpleen85]

Dont get me wrong though, UK and America as well as Canada have had success because "THEY ARE WHITE". I would trust any one else in office esp not a black person, AFRICA SUCKS! And Not a Latino either since all those countries are currupt. Asians Run dictator ships and Russian eh I dont fuck with russians.

This thread is going downhill FAST with comments like this. Your comments are becoming more and more borderline racist and more and more completely ignorant and uneducated. There are plenty of countries that have had or are having plenty of success without a white leader. Race has nothing to do with how good of a leader a person will be.

[cvc7chris]

This Country wouldn't be the same without Illegal Immigrants..

trust me..

it would fall apart..because no one wants to do the jobs they do..

as for me im mexican and im legal..

i pay my taxes..

so ya..



Everyone wants a Chance at a better life..

[LinX]

This Country wouldn't be the same without Illegal Immigrants..

trust me..

it would fall apart..because no one wants to do the jobs they do..

as for me im mexican and im legal..

i pay my taxes..

so ya..



Everyone wants a Chance at a better life..

That is the common argument but where is the proof? To think this nation was "fall apart" because of empty jobs? That's unheard of.

[10thcb7]

I spent 14 months in Iraq if that counts for anything, lol. Arabic is a bitch. I picked up enough to get by, but if I was to try and naturalize, it may be difficult. I believe that we provide translators for those that need them, and English classes are given just about every where for those that don't speak it.


But I agree with what you're saying. I wanna say it's New Mexico or maybe Arizona that is doing exactly what you're talking about, hammering the shit out the employers. Sadly, until that becomes a nation wide thing, that isn't going to fix the root problem, it's just going to move it to another state.

I dont care what you did. For all Im concerned the "Bird" should have inked your bitch ass with friendly fire and given a pink heart. For your views on other human beings. And it may be the casualties of war that have you like that or some alien probe plugged in your ass, but you know what I mean by that. I would shit inside your helmet if I had a chance.

[10thcb7]

This thread is going downhill FAST with comments like this. Your comments are becoming more and more borderline racist and more and more completely ignorant and uneducated. There are plenty of countries that have had or are having plenty of success without a white leader. Race has nothing to do with how good of a leader a person will be.

Whom else would you want to run America? And im sure you could say "the most qualified" but in the back of your mind inside your ears you'd want some one whom you could relate to in ethics and culture. Other countries might be on the rise in success but non have the same human rights and this is what counts.
However that comment is not borderline racist, Im just willing to point out that since 60% of america is white they are border line of minority they are looking out for themselves and adding to the nations ethnic diversity is in the hands of white people.

[owequitit]

Not that your opinion or approval is really needed but and I quote "you are only about 70% coherent." 70% is I need to pass any test unless its a subject that one has never been educated on, then 90% is required. but seeing how stupid most americans are that makes me feel better like warm saki.

Maybe the 30% that you feel as incoherent may have confused you a bit. And I quote "Your arguement about the "illegals" having rights to the land" that is incorrect. Why the Fuck in Bushes name would I "argue" that the land belongs to Mexicans. Simply Mexicans of older generations can be American Citizens since some but not most have alreadly been here before the purchase of Califronia and Texas(both of these purchases extend as far as arkansass and nevada). So it is not an 'excuse'. Hispanics as a whole are not "illegal" any one can be and to claim Mexicans as the sole wave of "illegals" is incoherent.BITCH



This is wrong on too many levels. Simply Hilter sought after the Jewish"semitc" peoples. The same way America did so to Native Americas and Japanese Immigrans whom never got redemption for. This is not false harassment. This is harassment at its truest form. Hispanics of all sorts both citizens and non citizens being placed under arrest for their skin color. You couldn't change my mind if you paid me money or changed the laws. And undocumented workers are viewed as criminals for, "stealing" as you call it, have involvement in the workforce. Which most people dont understand although they may not have a social they do indeed pay property and federal taxes, which is what most you nut fucks complain about any how.

Here we go again...

Grammar at BELOW the 70% level. My statement meant that 30% of what you write is illegible, and makes no sense. If you want to float at the bottome level go for it.

And I reiterate. Your point about the land is 100% moot. It happened hundreds of years ago. They sold the land, we bought it. It is now ours. Everything is irrelevant. As far as your claim of people having a right to be here because there ancestors were, that is just a matter of timing. Some people die in natural disasters, some don't. Some people get lucky with timing, some don't.

P.S. This thread has now de-evolved past the point of usefullness. Personal attacks have been made. Rules will be enforced.

P.S.S. Everyone wants a better life. There is an ethical way to go about it, and an unethical way to go about it. The unethical way will NEVER be ethical, no matter what.