Can't shift into Reverse

[reklipz]

Though, I have 50/50 mix of 10W30 and Synchromesh in my transmission......

From a phone conversation I had with a tech rep from Pennzoil, the producer of Synchromesh (don't know about GM brand), it is not recommended to use this product, Synchromesh, in our cars.

Just so you know.......

I have Pennzoil Synchromesh here as well. Can you elaborate on your conversation with the Pennzoil rep, maybe in another thread if it's not relevant here?

[TAMPA]

I have Pennzoil Synchromesh here as well. Can you elaborate on your conversation with the Pennzoil rep, maybe in another thread if it's not relevant here?

I dont see where it matters what was said over the phone.

Many very reputable members here have used Syncromesh for years with great results. And I doubt someone who answers phone calls is qualified to answer the question at hand however, anytime you talk to a company about using a product for something that its not intended for they will almost always say they do not recommend it. Will soaking carburetor parts is Sea Foam hurt anything? Of course not but will the representative on the phone advise it? Very unlikely.

The reasons for this is they simply dont want the risk even if it is very very minuscule. If a company tells a guy named Joe that its ok to use product A for job B and its not designed for job B and Joe comes back later with a problem that may or may not be related to using product A the company can be held liable either way.

Thats why it doesnt really matter what Penzoil said. Its the persons job on the phone to tell you not to use it if your asking about using it for a purpose its not designed for even if they know damn well it will work and work well. They do that to cover their ass. And like I said, they are paid to answer phones anyways... Its not like they engineered the stuff.

[oyajicool]

What you are saying could be very true, IMHO.
But, they have much better credential speaking their products than end-user- mechanics, let alone some back yard half-ass-educated mechanics.
These tech reps have engineers to back up their products through controlled lab testing and such.

Anyone can shoot BS all day long guarded with plausible theory and numbers, pretending they are the shit. Some one who's listening with no knowledge can go, "wow" to that. And believe that BS. He is reputable!!! WOW!!

I've seen a member or two here saying it is OK to surpass the torque value set by the manufacturer, because they do that all the time. "It is OK to tighten as much as you can. Stop it just before you break a bolt". Wow, really? How do you know that bolt is just about to break, before it actually break?

Well, I got side tracked here.

My point is that you can use any products you want to use on your car. But recommending or suggesting something else other than what a manufacture says is not such good idea. Not to me anyways.

[TAMPA]

What you are saying could be very true, IMHO.
But, they have much better credential speaking their products than end-user- mechanics, let alone some back yard half-ass-educated mechanics.
These tech reps have engineers to back up their products through controlled lab testing and such.

Anyone can shoot BS all day long guarded with plausible theory and numbers, pretending they are the shit. Some one who's listening with no knowledge can go, "wow" to that. And believe that BS. He is reputable!!! WOW!!

I've seen a member or two here saying it is OK to surpass the torque value set by the manufacturer, because they do that all the time. "It is OK to tighten as much as you can. Stop it just before you break a bolt". Wow, really? How do you know that bolt is just about to break, before it actually break?

Well, I got side tracked here.

My point is that you can use any products you want to use on your car. But recommending or suggesting something else other than what a manufacture says is not such good idea. Not to me anyways.

I wast taking to you, I was talking to reklipz. Sorry for the confusion. And why bring up someone that you know I know who your talking about and whos my friend? Because you like starting shit. Thats why.

Anyways, Syncromesh has been used by members here with no problems that I can find. My 90 has it. I didnt put it in but the last owner was a member here and he put it in. 15,000 miles or so using so far.

[RyanD]

I wast taking to you, I was talking to reklipz. Sorry for the confusion. And why bring up someone that you know I know who your talking about and whos my friend? Because you like starting shit. Thats why.

Anyways, Syncromesh has been used by members here with no problems that I can find. My 90 has it. I didnt put it in but the last owner was a member here and he put it in. 15,000 miles or so using so far.

i agree. i would even use syncromesh in my new trans. i have never heard a problem with syncromesh in our transmissions. all i have heard is god things which to me, out weigh the bad shit i have heard about honda mtf

[TAMPA]

These threads are full of people with all different types and years of hondas and acuras who have used syncromesh and have noticed a change for the better.

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=144343

http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthre...t=43847&page=2

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1190863

http://www.preludepower.com/forums/a.../t-366042.html

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1503234

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1772135

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=778013

http://forums.clubrsx.com/archive/in...?t-742303.html

[reklipz]

I agree with everything everyone has said. as mentioned, I use Synchromesh in my car as well. I was curious on the details for exactly the reasons you mentioned TAMPA. It's pretty easy to tell a canned answer from one that is actually based on thought and intellect. perhaps the rep explained his reasoning, or oyajicool was able to conclude something from the conversation, and that would be a valuable data point.

I've heard lots of anecdotal "good stuff" as well as "bad stuff.". Some emperical evidence would be nice, and perhaps oyajicool was able to get the rep to give some details.

[oyajicool]

You are more than welcome to make the call yourself in order to avoid second hand information from me. You can get the phone number from their web site as I did a long time ago.

[solito_yo]

Cool thanks guys. I haven't had any problems since. Yeah I have read on here and on other random forums on how sychromesh has helped them. That's one reason why I went with it than just plain 10w30. Which I used before to.