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    #16
    Just uploaded the image, looking forward your input. Thanks Cb7Tuner.

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      #17
      Originally posted by deevergote View Post
      It's the SM4 here too... for whatever reason, we choose to go by the chassis code that's in the VIN number (yours probably says JHMCB3 or something like that... the 7 belongs to North American cars.)
      It's CB7 in Australia also (would suspect in NZ and UK too).

      Yeah its funny they have SM4 stamped all over yet its actually referred to as CB7.

      I think this may be right though i have not made my own definitive research (lazy at the moment).

      CB1: 1.8
      CB2: 1.8 4ws
      CB3: 2.0 SOHC/DOHC, carb/PGM-Fi
      CB4: CB3 4ws
      CB5: Inspire
      CB6: Coupe
      CB7: 2.2, including 4ws
      CB8: Euro wagon
      CB9: USDM/JDM wagon

      The SM3 Ascot has the CB1 to 4, no coupe or wagon

      This is actually quoted from "Blizzard 335" - from a previous discussion.

      Not sure where he got that info from.
      Rides:

      Accord
      92-JDM-2.0 Si- "4ws" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
      96-AUDM-2.2 VTiS- Heather Mist

      CR-X
      88-JDM-Si- Black

      CR-X Del Sol
      92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Motegi Edition - Silver
      95-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Daytona Edition - Silver
      92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" - Black

      Prelude
      91-JDM-Si-4ws "Si States" - Phoenix Red
      91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition" - Bordeaux Red Pearl
      91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
      91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition"- Gun Metal Grey

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        #18
        Originally posted by YK86 View Post
        Also the 160HP JDM B20A has the Honda logo on the middle towards the front of the car on the valve cover so it sounds like you have that motor (the USDM Prelude B20A had the emblem in the corner). Here's what mine looks like on my engine stand mounted how it would be in the car.



        I am doubting he has a B20A (not trying to disrespect here), but look at your valve cover.

        1) The oil cap is in different spots.
        2) The distributor is mounted differently
        3) There is a breather tube going into his valve cover (not on yours)
        4) Spark plug depression contours of valve cover is shallower on yours (deeper in his)
        5) Yours has a plastic timing belt cover (his is still part of the valve cover)
        etc. etc.

        I am suspecting this may be a F20a not B20a (possibly miss heard the previous owner).

        The car is right hand drive so an F20a is not out of the question. They may have cars configured for their market (Indonesia or Malaysia) but using JDM engines.

        I will try confirm it when i compare it to my engine which is a JDM F20a. Though my car is an actual JDM car. Still his engine looks very similar to my F20a.
        Last edited by JDMDriver; 09-23-2010, 07:40 AM.
        Rides:

        Accord
        92-JDM-2.0 Si- "4ws" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
        96-AUDM-2.2 VTiS- Heather Mist

        CR-X
        88-JDM-Si- Black

        CR-X Del Sol
        92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Motegi Edition - Silver
        95-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Daytona Edition - Silver
        92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" - Black

        Prelude
        91-JDM-Si-4ws "Si States" - Phoenix Red
        91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition" - Bordeaux Red Pearl
        91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
        91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition"- Gun Metal Grey

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          #19
          His pics of the car/motor weren't there originally so I could only go by what he was describing. Now that I have seen the pics, that motor is NOT the B20A I have. Definitely looks like a f series.....but can't really tell which version.

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            #20
            Originally posted by YK86 View Post
            My 3rd gen shell was too rusty, didn't want to drop all the goodies into a dying shell but I never got around to finding another shell. I really should get that restarted.

            Back in it's "glory" days with the stock a20 around 2001.
            How did that get so rusty? It looks really good on that photo.

            Yes you really should do that project and get that car on the road (hope more stock than a fast and furious kind of car).

            I actually saw one on the road today, still sounded nice and looked like it was only 5 to 7 yrs old (not bad for a car over 22 yrs old).

            Came across one for sale at a car lot (gold). I was curious so i inspected it. Surprisingly it still looks and feels comfy and really wouldnt mind driving it (still had all goodies eg. cruise control, air con, central locking, sunroof etc). Better than some newer cars like the yaris or swift and even corrolla's which can have drum brakes and manual windows etc.
            Last edited by JDMDriver; 09-23-2010, 07:38 AM.
            Rides:

            Accord
            92-JDM-2.0 Si- "4ws" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
            96-AUDM-2.2 VTiS- Heather Mist

            CR-X
            88-JDM-Si- Black

            CR-X Del Sol
            92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Motegi Edition - Silver
            95-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Daytona Edition - Silver
            92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" - Black

            Prelude
            91-JDM-Si-4ws "Si States" - Phoenix Red
            91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition" - Bordeaux Red Pearl
            91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
            91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition"- Gun Metal Grey

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              #21
              Originally posted by JDMDriver View Post

              I am suspecting this may be a F20a not B20a (possibly miss heard the previous owner).

              The car is right hand drive so an F20a is not out of the question. They may have cars configured for their market (Indonesia or Malaysia) but using JDM engines.

              I will try confirm it when i compare it to my engine which is a JDM F20a. Though my car is an actual JDM car. Still his engine looks very similar to my F20a.
              Wasn't F20A is a SOHC engine ? mine is a DOHC one..., as far as i know F-series engine with DOHC is F20B and F22B..., am i right ?

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                #22
                There are 2 versions of the F20A. One is SOHC, one is DOHC.






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                  #23

                  this is the F20a DOHC

                  looks like that's what op has
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                    #24
                    Oo..ok..., sure it looks more like F20a DOHC now...

                    So is it a good engine ? What honda car its originally from ?

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                      #25
                      F20A

                      This engine was used in the 1990–1993 CB3 and CB4 Honda Accord 2.0Si and Si-T in Japan.

                      Specifications

                      * Bore × Stroke: 85.0 × 88.0 mm
                      * Displacement: 1997 cc
                      * Valve Configuration: DOHC, 16 valves
                      * Compression ratio: 9.5:1
                      * Max power: 150 hp (112 kW) @ 6100 rpm
                      * Max torque: 137 ft·lbf (186 Nm) @ 5000 rpm
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                        #26
                        Where do i can find its manual ? I need it so that my mechanic can do a proper tune-up.

                        Thanks.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by JDMDriver View Post
                          I will try confirm it when i compare it to my engine which is a JDM F20a. Though my car is an actual JDM car. Still his engine looks very similar to my F20a.
                          I had compared this to my car and its a dead ringer for the F20A DOHC EFI engine.

                          Im 99% sure
                          Rides:

                          Accord
                          92-JDM-2.0 Si- "4ws" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
                          96-AUDM-2.2 VTiS- Heather Mist

                          CR-X
                          88-JDM-Si- Black

                          CR-X Del Sol
                          92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Motegi Edition - Silver
                          95-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Daytona Edition - Silver
                          92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" - Black

                          Prelude
                          91-JDM-Si-4ws "Si States" - Phoenix Red
                          91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition" - Bordeaux Red Pearl
                          91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
                          91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition"- Gun Metal Grey

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by SM4_Putih View Post
                            Where do i can find its manual ? I need it so that my mechanic can do a proper tune-up.

                            Thanks.
                            Some of the most common tune up requirement (spark plug types, spark plug gaps etc) can be found in the stickers underneath your front hood or bonnet.

                            If your car doesn't have all japanese writing everywhere (eg. fuse box, visor, tyre inflation sticker or engine bay stickers etc) then chances are its a locally available car (not a JDM).

                            In that case im in the opinion that you should just be able to walk up to any Honda dealer and ask the service department for some of its tune up specificiation (to a degree you can ask as they may like you to pay for their services instead).

                            Perhaps you can even buy a local version of the helms (or other) manual detailing your engine specs.
                            Rides:

                            Accord
                            92-JDM-2.0 Si- "4ws" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
                            96-AUDM-2.2 VTiS- Heather Mist

                            CR-X
                            88-JDM-Si- Black

                            CR-X Del Sol
                            92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Motegi Edition - Silver
                            95-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Daytona Edition - Silver
                            92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" - Black

                            Prelude
                            91-JDM-Si-4ws "Si States" - Phoenix Red
                            91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition" - Bordeaux Red Pearl
                            91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
                            91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition"- Gun Metal Grey

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                              #29
                              I just remembered this.

                              Your service manual (grab one from the JY if you have lost yours) may actually have details for the F20 engines, well in Australia they do anyway.

                              Not that the engine was ever offered here but im guessing they circulate the same manual for other markets. They dont want to pay for individual print runs for each and every market hence why on the manual you see things like "for some types" and "for brazillian models" etc.
                              Rides:

                              Accord
                              92-JDM-2.0 Si- "4ws" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
                              96-AUDM-2.2 VTiS- Heather Mist

                              CR-X
                              88-JDM-Si- Black

                              CR-X Del Sol
                              92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Motegi Edition - Silver
                              95-JDM-SiR "Transtop" Daytona Edition - Silver
                              92-JDM-SiR "Transtop" - Black

                              Prelude
                              91-JDM-Si-4ws "Si States" - Phoenix Red
                              91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition" - Bordeaux Red Pearl
                              91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita" - Cobalt Blue Pearl
                              91-AUDM-Si-4ws "Cita Lux Edition"- Gun Metal Grey

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by JDMDriver View Post
                                Some of the most common tune up requirement (spark plug types, spark plug gaps etc) can be found in the stickers underneath your front hood or bonnet.

                                If your car doesn't have all japanese writing everywhere (eg. fuse box, visor, tyre inflation sticker or engine bay stickers etc) then chances are its a locally available car (not a JDM).

                                In that case im in the opinion that you should just be able to walk up to any Honda dealer and ask the service department for some of its tune up specificiation (to a degree you can ask as they may like you to pay for their services instead).

                                Perhaps you can even buy a local version of the helms (or other) manual detailing your engine specs.

                                Finally the mistery are solved....

                                Thanks all for the warm welcome and valuable insight. Hope you guys are here...

                                Ok...lets start building CB7...as some says that a good CB7 are not bought but build...

                                Thank you

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